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::The cumulative effect was clear "baiting" to take advantage of the "no personal comments" sanction Awilley had imposed ''in a previous case MrX had brought against me, and which Snoog was also involved in''.  <br /><span style="font-size:140%;font-weight:bold;>[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMedia_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&type=revision&diff=939342735&oldid=939340503 I presented the facts]</span>  on the talk page, showing beyond any doubt that ''nobody'' had ''ever'' deleted the content I had supposedly <span style="color:#900;font-weight:bold;font-size:80%;">repeatedly edit-warred</span> into the article.
 
::The cumulative effect was clear "baiting" to take advantage of the "no personal comments" sanction Awilley had imposed ''in a previous case MrX had brought against me, and which Snoog was also involved in''.  <br /><span style="font-size:140%;font-weight:bold;>[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMedia_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&type=revision&diff=939342735&oldid=939340503 I presented the facts]</span>  on the talk page, showing beyond any doubt that ''nobody'' had ''ever'' deleted the content I had supposedly <span style="color:#900;font-weight:bold;font-size:80%;">repeatedly edit-warred</span> into the article.
 
*WMSR, who has been trying to get me sanctioned for some time, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&diff=next&oldid=939331702 denied] the evidence on the talk page.
 
*WMSR, who has been trying to get me sanctioned for some time, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&diff=next&oldid=939331702 denied] the evidence on the talk page.
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*Objective3000 made a number of personal attacks against me which I tried to remove (one of which  WMSR acknowledged {{tq|O3000 shouldn't have said}} in yet another [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&diff=prev&oldid=939331227 denial] of the clear evidence that Snoogans had '''made up''' the edit-war he was complaining of.
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*Objective3000 made a number of personal attacks against me which I tried to remove (one of which  WMSR acknowledged <span style="color:#033;">O3000 shouldn't have said</span> in yet another [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&diff=prev&oldid=939331227 denial] of the clear evidence that Snoogans had '''made up''' the edit-war he was complaining of.
 
*WMSR, Objective3000, Slywriter and another contributor directed a number of personal comments towards me on the talk page (''zero'' discussion of content) while I rewrote a paragraph about the section scrubbed from the article by Snoogans & MrX.  I explicitly and politely [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders#New_proposal_on_Wisconsin_/_New_York responded to their concerns] with previous content and continued a content discussion on the TP ''amidst'' the poisonous atmosphere being established by the five editors [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders#Scrub_Wisconsin?_Scrub_New_York? in the original thread].
 
*WMSR, Objective3000, Slywriter and another contributor directed a number of personal comments towards me on the talk page (''zero'' discussion of content) while I rewrote a paragraph about the section scrubbed from the article by Snoogans & MrX.  I explicitly and politely [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders#New_proposal_on_Wisconsin_/_New_York responded to their concerns] with previous content and continued a content discussion on the TP ''amidst'' the poisonous atmosphere being established by the five editors [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders#Scrub_Wisconsin?_Scrub_New_York? in the original thread].
 
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:People have objected to my saying the entry & topic area is being controlled by a "house" cabal with a division of roles according to talents, tools, and experience points. Wait, no, I didn't say all that, did I? :) People have also previously objected to me drawing attention to the fact that Snoogans & MrX work together.  As the [[User:SashiRolls/alt-litterbox#Snoo_-_X|record shows]], these two have interacted on <span style="color:maroon;font-size:80%;font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;">41 pages within 10 minutes of one another</span>, and 167 pages within 10 days of one another.  Their #1 and #3 interactions are on <span style="color:#033;font-size:80%;font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;">Media coverage of Bernie Sanders</span> and <span style="color:#033;font-size:80%;font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;">Tulsi Gabbard</span>, two pages where I have had to deal with them extensively.
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:People have objected to my saying the entry & topic area is being controlled by a "house" cabal with a division of roles according to talents, tools, and experience points. Wait, no, I didn't say all that, did I? :) People have also previously objected to me drawing attention to the fact that Snoogans & MrX work together.  As the record shows, these two have interacted on <span style="color:maroon;font-size:80%;font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;">41 pages within 10 minutes of one another</span> ([https://www.creoliste.fr/docs/SnooX.pdf pdf]), and 167 pages within 10 days of one another.  Their #1 and #3 interactions are on <span style="color:#033;font-size:80%;font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;">Media coverage of Bernie Sanders</span> and <span style="color:#033;font-size:80%;font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;">Tulsi Gabbard</span>, two pages where I have had to deal with them extensively.
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::19:29 12 Jan [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive402#User%3ASashiRolls_reported_by_User%3AMrX_%28Result%3A_Warned%29  MrX] - [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&type=revision&diff=935469666&oldid=935350245 O3000] 19:38 12 Jan (first edit to the page)
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:19:29 12 Jan [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive402#User%3ASashiRolls_reported_by_User%3AMrX_%28Result%3A_Warned%29  MrX] - [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&type=revision&diff=935469666&oldid=935350245 O3000] 19:38 12 Jan (first edit to the page)
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::18:03 29 Jan [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&diff=prev&oldid=938194405 MrX] - [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&diff=next&oldid=938194405 O3000] 18:05 29 Jan
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:18:03 29 Jan [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&diff=prev&oldid=938194405 MrX] - [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&diff=next&oldid=938194405 O3000] 18:05 29 Jan
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::(unpinged) 02:20 5 Jan [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AReliable_sources%2FNoticeboard&type=revision&diff=934165094&oldid=934164688 Snoo] - [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard&oldid=934245976#Honolulu_Civil_Beat X] 01:58-14:15 5 Jan (pinged)
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*Calton on [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py?name=Calton&page=Jill_Stein&server=enwiki&max= Jill Stein]
 
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;WMSR's copyvio & harassment accusations:
 
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:On 28 January 2018, WSMR started an AfD on the "media coverage of BS" page and an ANI report against me which was closed the same day (though he reopened it a few hours after Bbb23 closed it as being most likely a disruptive timesink).  Five days later, I challenged him to demonstrate the copyvio (the least subjective of the accusations).  Caught in the fib, he shifted the goalposts: "{{tq| Regardless of whether the use of that image was a violation of copyright law, it was a clear violation of WP's fair use policy}}" in this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AWMSR&type=revision&diff=938988227&oldid=938987852 diff].
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:On 28 January 2018, WSMR started an AfD on the "media coverage of BS" page and an ANI report against me which was closed the same day (though he reopened it a few hours after Bbb23 closed it as being most likely a disruptive timesink).  Five days later, I challenged him to demonstrate the copyvio (the least subjective of the accusations).  Caught in the fib, he shifted the goalposts: "<span style="color:#033;">Regardless of whether the use of that image was a violation of copyright law, it was a clear violation of WP's fair use policy</span>" in this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AWMSR&type=revision&diff=938988227&oldid=938987852 diff].
 
:WMSR removed the image from the article on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=936925021 21 January 2020], I never restored it.  Why was this worth discussion 7 days later?
 
:WMSR removed the image from the article on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=936925021 21 January 2020], I never restored it.  Why was this worth discussion 7 days later?
 
:WMSR also accused me of harassment on 28 January 2020, though I hadn't even commented on his talk page (though he'd been asked to stay off mine).<br />
 
:WMSR also accused me of harassment on 28 January 2020, though I hadn't even commented on his talk page (though he'd been asked to stay off mine).<br />
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*Snoog has misrepresented the off-wiki information from 2017 he sent to ArbCom.  Like the false claim of edit warring above, this is a tactical misrepresentation.
 
*Snoog has misrepresented the off-wiki information from 2017 he sent to ArbCom.  Like the false claim of edit warring above, this is a tactical misrepresentation.
 
*Given the clear evidence of coordinated harassment, the gaming of the "no personal comments" sanction Awilley unilaterally imposed, and the very clear misrepresentations of content (which is a behavioral issue I have solid evidence to share, especially concerning Snoogans), this case belongs at ArbCom, with the filer and first three commenters on this case as parties to the dispute.
 
*Given the clear evidence of coordinated harassment, the gaming of the "no personal comments" sanction Awilley unilaterally imposed, and the very clear misrepresentations of content (which is a behavioral issue I have solid evidence to share, especially concerning Snoogans), this case belongs at ArbCom, with the filer and first three commenters on this case as parties to the dispute.
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*Looking back on the article I noticed that nobody had given anyone a heads up there that anything was happening.  I wonder how anyone knowing anything about the dispute could have found out about it?
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*I also noted two discussions which have been opened but had not been substantively discussed  ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMedia_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&type=revision&diff=939995885&oldid=939870154 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders&diff=939997940&oldid=939997315 2]), drowned out by the wailing and gnashing of teeth about tone. -- [[User:SashiRolls | SashiRolls]] <sup>[[User_talk:SashiRolls | 🌿 ]] ·  [[Special:Contributions/SashiRolls|  🍥]]</sup> 00:34, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
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*I notice that MrX has added one of my edit summaries on my talk page '''in boldface''', suggesting that it is particularly important.  For information, I had misspelled "harassment" with two Rs and while backspacing hit <return> instead of <backspace>. (I can't really claim "fat" fingers, but...)
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*A lot of people have found it inappropriate that I asked Snoogans about their qualifications to judge the "absurdity" of professional mainstream journalists' articles.  I think it is interesting that on en.wp it is considered a major-major foul to ask what someone does for a living, whereas in life, this is usually one of the first things you know about someone.  I'm not trying to excuse my irritation with their pestering by pointing out how weird it is to hide your professional qualifications, I just think people should be aware how weird it is. (For complete transparency, I have taught foreign languages and computer skills at all levels (from middle school through graduate school and ''grandes écoles'' to continuing education) for 20+ years and have also worked in radio, retail, translation, academic research, photography, manual labor, and quite a few kitchens. In other words, I have legitimate working class bonafides.)
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*Levivich mentioned [[User:Cirt|Cirt]]/[[User:Sagecandor|Sagecandor]].  I'm not sure I ever said Sagecandor was a sockpuppet as such.  I was blocked in Dec 2016 for questioning whether there was "some today politics" in their desire to have their rewrite of "And are you lynching Negroes" promoted to GA status (which it was not), and later in June 2017, for documenting their production at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABibliography_of_Donald_Trump&type=revision&diff=786945533&oldid=786945416 Talk:Bibliography of Donald Trump].  I say this because opining you think someone might be a sock-puppet is a thought-crime in the 1st degree (as I understand it) unless you provide evidence (as I did twice for [[User:Bulldog Antz|Bulldog Antz]] & [[User:The Bone Dorchester]]).-- [[User:SashiRolls | SashiRolls]] <sup>[[User_talk:SashiRolls | 🌿 ]] ·  [[Special:Contributions/SashiRolls|  🍥]]</sup> 11:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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[[Category: en.wiki]]

Latest revision as of 02:50, 17 February 2020

AE complaint

Immediate history
  • On 31 January 2020 MrX was warned for edit warring on Media coverage of Bernie Sanders. He was at 3RR at 14:30 and had not reverted his (mistake) by 23:30 (and still has not). I filed at ANEW, and after he was warned, MrX began compiling diffs for this revenge filing on the same day.
  • On 4 February 2020, Snooganssnoogans made a series of 6 reversions (one continuous revert) with insulting edit summaries:
  • fix poor, incomprehensible writeup
  • nonsensical descriptions
  • awful writeup
  • this has nothing to do with media bias against Sanders. one editor has repeatedly edit-warred this into the article over the objections of other editors ( diff ).
The cumulative effect was clear "baiting" to take advantage of the "no personal comments" sanction Awilley had imposed in a previous case MrX had brought against me, and which Snoog was also involved in.
I presented the facts on the talk page, showing beyond any doubt that nobody had ever deleted the content I had supposedly repeatedly edit-warred into the article.
  • WMSR, who has been trying to get me sanctioned for some time, denied the evidence on the talk page.
  • Objective3000 made a number of personal attacks against me which I tried to remove (one of which WMSR acknowledged O3000 shouldn't have said in yet another denial of the clear evidence that Snoogans had made up the edit-war he was complaining of.
  • WMSR, Objective3000, Slywriter and another contributor directed a number of personal comments towards me on the talk page (zero discussion of content) while I rewrote a paragraph about the section scrubbed from the article by Snoogans & MrX. I explicitly and politely responded to their concerns with previous content and continued a content discussion on the TP amidst the poisonous atmosphere being established by the five editors in the original thread.


qabbalah
People have objected to my saying the entry & topic area is being controlled by a "house" cabal with a division of roles according to talents, tools, and experience points. Wait, no, I didn't say all that, did I? :) People have also previously objected to me drawing attention to the fact that Snoogans & MrX work together. As the record shows, these two have interacted on 41 pages within 10 minutes of one another (pdf), and 167 pages within 10 days of one another. Their #1 and #3 interactions are on Media coverage of Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard, two pages where I have had to deal with them extensively.
19:29 12 Jan MrX - O3000 19:38 12 Jan (first edit to the page)
18:03 29 Jan MrX - O3000 18:05 29 Jan
  • RSN:
(unpinged) 02:20 5 Jan Snoo - X 01:58-14:15 5 Jan (pinged)


WMSR's copyvio & harassment accusations
On 28 January 2018, WSMR started an AfD on the "media coverage of BS" page and an ANI report against me which was closed the same day (though he reopened it a few hours after Bbb23 closed it as being most likely a disruptive timesink). Five days later, I challenged him to demonstrate the copyvio (the least subjective of the accusations). Caught in the fib, he shifted the goalposts: "Regardless of whether the use of that image was a violation of copyright law, it was a clear violation of WP's fair use policy" in this diff.
WMSR removed the image from the article on 21 January 2020, I never restored it. Why was this worth discussion 7 days later?
WMSR also accused me of harassment on 28 January 2020, though I hadn't even commented on his talk page (though he'd been asked to stay off mine).


Working the refs
  • Obj3000, MrX, and Snoog have all commented on 7 admin talk pages. The closest association (by far) is with Awilley, who imposed the "no personal comments" sanction (20, 19, and 22 comments, respectively). I have made a spreadsheet of their interactions separated into subject areas for ArbCom. The two that concern me at the moment are among their closest collaborations.


Further evidence available
  • I can respond to each of the diffs presented above providing the context. (evidence phase)
  • Snoog has misrepresented the off-wiki information from 2017 he sent to ArbCom. Like the false claim of edit warring above, this is a tactical misrepresentation.
  • Given the clear evidence of coordinated harassment, the gaming of the "no personal comments" sanction Awilley unilaterally imposed, and the very clear misrepresentations of content (which is a behavioral issue I have solid evidence to share, especially concerning Snoogans), this case belongs at ArbCom, with the filer and first three commenters on this case as parties to the dispute.
  • Looking back on the article I noticed that nobody had given anyone a heads up there that anything was happening. I wonder how anyone knowing anything about the dispute could have found out about it?
  • I also noted two discussions which have been opened but had not been substantively discussed (1, 2), drowned out by the wailing and gnashing of teeth about tone. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 00:34, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


Thought-crime (addendum)
  • I notice that MrX has added one of my edit summaries on my talk page in boldface, suggesting that it is particularly important. For information, I had misspelled "harassment" with two Rs and while backspacing hit <return> instead of <backspace>. (I can't really claim "fat" fingers, but...)
  • A lot of people have found it inappropriate that I asked Snoogans about their qualifications to judge the "absurdity" of professional mainstream journalists' articles. I think it is interesting that on en.wp it is considered a major-major foul to ask what someone does for a living, whereas in life, this is usually one of the first things you know about someone. I'm not trying to excuse my irritation with their pestering by pointing out how weird it is to hide your professional qualifications, I just think people should be aware how weird it is. (For complete transparency, I have taught foreign languages and computer skills at all levels (from middle school through graduate school and grandes écoles to continuing education) for 20+ years and have also worked in radio, retail, translation, academic research, photography, manual labor, and quite a few kitchens. In other words, I have legitimate working class bonafides.)
  • Levivich mentioned Cirt/Sagecandor. I'm not sure I ever said Sagecandor was a sockpuppet as such. I was blocked in Dec 2016 for questioning whether there was "some today politics" in their desire to have their rewrite of "And are you lynching Negroes" promoted to GA status (which it was not), and later in June 2017, for documenting their production at Talk:Bibliography of Donald Trump. I say this because opining you think someone might be a sock-puppet is a thought-crime in the 1st degree (as I understand it) unless you provide evidence (as I did twice for Bulldog Antz & User:The Bone Dorchester).-- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 11:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)


Raw text dump

WSMR-MrX, interactions

WMSR/MrX interaction

  • 12m: Talk: Media coverage of Bernie Sanders (WMSR: 108 edits)
  • 35m: Wikipedia:Administrator's noticeboard/Edit warring (149/4)
  • 37m: Talk:Tulsi Gabbard 2020 presidential campaign (WMSR:11 edits) cf.Talk:Tulsi_Gabbard_2020_presidential_campaign#Unwarranted_deletions_of_content_by_MrX_and_WMSR
  • 2h: Media coverage of Bernie Sanders
  • 2h: WP:AE (232/1)
  • 3h: WP:AN/I (468/63)
  • 11h: Tulsi Gabbard 2020 presidential campaign (63 / 8)
  • 14h: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media coverage of Bernie Sanders
  • 3d: User talk:SashiRolls

O3000, Snoo, X triple interactions (sorted by theme)

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User talk:Awilley 1 minutes 20 19 22

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Media coverage of Bernie Sanders 7 minutes 5 123 48

User talk:SashiRolls 2 days 2 14 11



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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement 1 minutes 58 56 202

Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard 1 minutes 65 158 169

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Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring 5 minutes 43 80 101

Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard 6 minutes 114 74 48

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Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure 8 minutes 6 3 126

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User talk:Doug Weller 7 minutes 7 5 3

User talk:Bishonen 3 hours 14 2 9

User talk:MelanieN 2 days 49 9 6

User talk:El C 3 days 7 1 5

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Talk:Laura Ingraham 6 seconds 22 20 20

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CNN controversies 56 minutes 32 4 35

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Donald Trump 5 minutes 45 67 466

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Beto O'Rourke

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relevant to this particular case

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Media coverage of Bernie Sanders 2 hours 123 48

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User talk:SashiRolls 7 days 14 11

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump racial views 51 seconds 3 27

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Talk:Political positions of Donald Trump 14 minutes 41 18

Trump administration family separation policy 4 minutes 38 26

Talk:Trump administration family separation policy 4 minutes 18 34

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Talk:Tucker Carlson 59 minutes 36 14

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Steve King 28 minutes 50 21




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Andrew McCabe 6 minutes 7 4

???? 7 minutes 1 2


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Talk:Ron DeSantis 11 minutes 3 23

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Kyle Kashuv 24 minutes 2 122


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Chip Roy 38 minutes 7 4

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Justin Amash 2 hours 18 3


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Joe Biden 3 hours 8 17

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American Health Care Act of 2017 1 days 10 6

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