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==Reference==
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Arbcom can [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Shakespeare_authorship_question#Review_of_community_sanctions|reverse CBANs]], if
  
*Nic Hill, Scott Glosserman [[https://thoughtmaybe.com/truth-in-numbers/ Truth in Numbers]]
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# they were procedurally unfair
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*biased presentation:  diffs presented for rhetorical effect rather than in chronological order, rhetorical language includes: vendetta, accused, harassment, harass, attacks, punching bag, book-length rant (589 word statement of fact), battleground mentality,  inability to interact with "others", etc.
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*[regular !voters] came to sanction me within hours:  [BMK], [Johnuniq], [Neutrality], [MrX], [WMSR], [Bishonen], [Jorm], [Objective3000], [Dennis Brown], [Doug Weller], [Hut 8.5].  Was this mentioned on admin IRC?
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*the votes were miscounted
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*MastCell was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=866330671&oldid=866310440 not a neutral party], having claimed I made no positive contributions.  See further...
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*no account was taken of the massive trend against a site-ban once evidence was presented (and after El C's statement that they did not seek a site-ban).
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*I said I was too busy to mount a defense during the work-week.  Despite this, 13 people voted primarily based on my quick edit to remove the rhetoric from the initial report, calling it "deception" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=962866332&oldid=962864000 1]+[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=962861879&oldid=962858608 2]ABF).  The case was closed early despite a clear trend against a site-ban and despite my request to be given adequate time to respond.
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**the 12-5 vote to close Tony's case and send the case to ArbCom (by far the proposition with the highest support %) was '''entirely ignored''' in the close (opposed by 3 voters with "unclean hands")
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**those !vote of some of those who expressed evidence-based opposition to an immediate site-ban ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=962935089&oldid=962931042&title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard&type=revision 1], [2], [3], ...) was not counted ''at all'' or was given equal weight to !votes like: ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=962827130&oldid=9628180921], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=962914715&oldid=962914388 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=962864000&oldid=962861879 3], ...)
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**Claims such as [1], [2], [3] were debunked but not struck.
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**Tryptofish was allowed to continue to violate [his own terms] for the lifting of his I-Ban. Their vote was counted.
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**Despite burying statements already shown to be false in walls of text, Kingofaces43's !vote was counted {{small|(possibly twice?)}}
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**No mention was made of El C's history of making mistakes concerning me: [1], [2], [3].
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**Discussion of the substantive heart of the incident was chilled by Floquenbeam's [threat to block anyone who mentioned it].
  
==Qatar==
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# the sanction is excessive
Qatar is a small peninsular country that juts into the Persian Gulf and whose only land border is with Saudi Arabia.  Gas-rich, the country's ''citizens'' enjoy the highest per capita income in the world. Doha's capital is well known for its skyscrapers, at least one of which resembles a spicy pickle.  Though sports like camel-racing and falconry are more traditional, Qatar has shown an interest in football (soccer) through its ownership of Paris-St. Germain and its sponsorship of  FC Barcelona. It is building nine stadia in preparation for the 2022 World Cup, which it is hosting. Its media property Al Jazeera has been a bone of contention with other Gulf nations, as has its refusal to condemn the Muslim Brotherhood.  After its neighbors decided during Ramadan in 2017 to cut diplomatic ties, many families living in Qatar found themselves with difficult choices, including potentially being forced to renounce their citizenship if they remained in Qatar.
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*See [1], [2], [3]
 
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# circumstances changed
In June 2017, John Ascroft's lobbying firm signed a $2.5 million contract to rehabilitate Qatar's image in the US by better publicizing steps taken in recent years to prosecute private citizens funding the Taliban and jihadi groups.<ref name=Aschcroft>{{cite web
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*After evidence was presented the case ran 24-12 against a siteban. After El C's statement only 2 people voted for a siteban (one bearing a grudge, the other with an interesting edit history), everyone else opposed it. At that point, the community moved on to the question of moving the case to ArbCom and exploring the issue with evidence.
  |url=https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-10/singled-out-by-trump-qatar-hires-former-top-law-man-to-lobby
 
  |title=Singled Out by Trump, Qatar Hires Former Top U.S. Law Man
 
  |first=Bill
 
  |last=Allison
 
  |publisher=Bloomberg
 
  |date=10 June 2017
 
  |accessdate=11 June 2017
 
}}
 
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==References==
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Conclusion:  The site-ban should be reversed and an '''evidence-based''' case started if the GMO and AmPol topic bans are to be maintained. Kingofaces43's long history of being a timesink and the evidence of tag-teaming in AmPol (centered around MrX) should be studied.  For my part, I agree that I did not react well to being targeted for elimination.  See also RS on the main battleground actors:  [https://www.wired.co.uk/article/brexit-wikipedia-page-battles 1] (''[[Wired]]'') + [https://slate.com/technology/2019/05/donald-trump-wikipedia-page.html 2] (''[[Slate (technology)]]'')  Note that my name is not included in either article, but that MrX's and Snooganssnoogans' are.
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Latest revision as of 23:16, 2 July 2020

Arbcom can reverse CBANs, if

  1. they were procedurally unfair
  • biased presentation: diffs presented for rhetorical effect rather than in chronological order, rhetorical language includes: vendetta, accused, harassment, harass, attacks, punching bag, book-length rant (589 word statement of fact), battleground mentality, inability to interact with "others", etc.
  • [regular !voters] came to sanction me within hours: [BMK], [Johnuniq], [Neutrality], [MrX], [WMSR], [Bishonen], [Jorm], [Objective3000], [Dennis Brown], [Doug Weller], [Hut 8.5]. Was this mentioned on admin IRC?
  • the votes were miscounted
  • MastCell was not a neutral party, having claimed I made no positive contributions. See further...
  • no account was taken of the massive trend against a site-ban once evidence was presented (and after El C's statement that they did not seek a site-ban).
  • I said I was too busy to mount a defense during the work-week. Despite this, 13 people voted primarily based on my quick edit to remove the rhetoric from the initial report, calling it "deception" (1+2ABF). The case was closed early despite a clear trend against a site-ban and despite my request to be given adequate time to respond.
    • the 12-5 vote to close Tony's case and send the case to ArbCom (by far the proposition with the highest support %) was entirely ignored in the close (opposed by 3 voters with "unclean hands")
    • those !vote of some of those who expressed evidence-based opposition to an immediate site-ban (1, [2], [3], ...) was not counted at all or was given equal weight to !votes like: ([1], 2, 3, ...)
    • Claims such as [1], [2], [3] were debunked but not struck.
    • Tryptofish was allowed to continue to violate [his own terms] for the lifting of his I-Ban. Their vote was counted.
    • Despite burying statements already shown to be false in walls of text, Kingofaces43's !vote was counted Template:Small
    • No mention was made of El C's history of making mistakes concerning me: [1], [2], [3].
    • Discussion of the substantive heart of the incident was chilled by Floquenbeam's [threat to block anyone who mentioned it].
  1. the sanction is excessive
  • See [1], [2], [3]
  1. circumstances changed
  • After evidence was presented the case ran 24-12 against a siteban. After El C's statement only 2 people voted for a siteban (one bearing a grudge, the other with an interesting edit history), everyone else opposed it. At that point, the community moved on to the question of moving the case to ArbCom and exploring the issue with evidence.

Conclusion: The site-ban should be reversed and an evidence-based case started if the GMO and AmPol topic bans are to be maintained. Kingofaces43's long history of being a timesink and the evidence of tag-teaming in AmPol (centered around MrX) should be studied. For my part, I agree that I did not react well to being targeted for elimination. See also RS on the main battleground actors: 1 (Wired) + 2 (Slate (technology)) Note that my name is not included in either article, but that MrX's and Snooganssnoogans' are.